“Motor” and I were Gamblers together. We deployed and flew multiple combat sorties together in OIR. He is currently the Det 24 Commander which is responsible for Pilot Training 2.5. Pilot Training 2.5 has generated a lot of discussion (mostly negative) in the pilot world. We spend the majority of the episode talking about UPT 2.5. We touch on his Thunderbird days and a few war stories. Hope you enjoy.
