In this episode 140 of The Afterburn Podcast, Rain sits down with retired US Marine Corps fighter pilot and Echelon Front leadership instructor Dave "Chip" Berke — the only Marine ever to fly the USAF F-22 and the first to operationally fly the F-35B. From deployment on the USS John C. Stennis and TOPGUN instructor duty, to commanding the Marines’ first F-35B squadron and now helping build high-performing teams at Echelon Front, "Chip "brings unique stories and hard-earned leadership lessons.
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We dive into:
• What it’s really like launching off a carrier in an F/A-18 and transitioning into the F-35B
• Why failure and ego-checks are the fuel for great leadership
• The parallels between life in the cockpit and running business teams
• How the concept of “extreme ownership” plays out in combat and corporate environments
Whether you’re a pilot, team leader, entrepreneur or anyone who wants to level up your influence and impact — this one’s for you.
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“The Need to Lead” by Dave “Chip” Berke, with a contribution by Jocko Willink, explores what it truly means to lead under pressure — in combat, business, and life. Drawing on Berke’s rare experience flying the F-18, F-16, F-22, and F-35B, the book distills the lessons learned from two decades of military service and years teaching leadership at Echelon Front.
From the cockpits of the world’s most advanced fighter jets to the classrooms where he now trains corporate teams, Berke breaks down how humility, accountability, and decisiveness shape effective leaders. His stories reveal how ego can sabotage performance and how embracing failure, listening, and empowering others are the real markers of command.
It’s a brutally honest and deeply practical field guide to leadership — whether you’re leading a flight, a team, or a family.
00:00 Intro – Marine Aviation’s Naval Roots
01:27 F/A-18 vs the F-16: Which is better?
07:54 F-35 Variants Explained: B vs C and the Mission Differences
11:47 The First GPS-Guided JDAM Combat Mission
19:25 Adapting to Chaos – Lessons in Flexibility and Uncertainty
23:01 Inside Carrier Operations – What It’s Really Like at Sea
30:36 Developing Tactical Leadership in Fighter Squadrons
35:20 Leadership Lessons from a Raptor Pilot
41:56 The Only Marine to Fly Both the F-22 Raptor and F-35B Lightning II
47:00 Building the First F-35B Squadron – Starting Fresh with Proven Minds
49:49 F-22 HUD to F-35 Helmet: Adapting to Next-Gen Tech
55:45 Ego, Humility, and the Open-Minded Fighter Pilot
01:03:01 Becoming a TOPGUN Instructor – What It Really Takes
01:04:22 The Role of a Marine Forward Air Controller (FAC) in Combat
01:14:00 Returning Home – The Hidden Burdens of Combat
01:14:55 When the War Follows You Home
01:23:24 How Combat and Command Change a Marriage
01:26:00 The Toll of High-Stress Environments on Pilots and Families
01:30:54 Ego: The Biggest Threat to Leadership
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